Monday, July 26, 2010

Praying for the U.S. of A.

I think Christians being involved in politics is fine.

Of course I would, right?

Really, the spirit of America and political participation is this: American citizens, who wish to change America for the better, and who represent the people's wishes, should be able to. Thus, if Christians have the support of the people, by America's founding statutes and ideals, they have every right, and moreover, a duty to participate in Government.

At least, as far as their status as US citizens is concerned, but let me speak of their status as kingdom citizens.

I come from a background where praying for the US specifically (and the world) in political and social matters is very common. My church in college had weekly prayer meetings (and daily prayer meetings, and special occasion prayer meetings, and church prayer meetings, and--) where a good deal of time would be spent to effect Godly change in these matters. My pastor would come in with several inches of spiritually disturbing news articles he had read, from which he would read snippets of to us. If we were lucky, we got through maybe a quarter of them, and we would then pray over the matters.

Usually that God would undo the bad stuff, and keep blessing the good stuff. Specifically, at the issue-by-issue level.

But enough about my old church, let's talk about ME:

You might call me a doom-ist . . . or a pessimist . . . or a nut, I suppose. Unlike my father, and most of my Christian friends, I don't believe America's best days are ahead of it. I believe our worst days, as a nation, are ahead of us. In fact, I believe the world's worst days are ahead of us. It's the end-times, baby-- things get a heck of a lot worse before they can get better, before they can be made anew. Now, I think my father, and most of my Christian friends would agree with me on that point, but in their view, America will be the light to show the way to the rest of the world; America will be the prodigal son that comes back to his father, who will then bring revival on the rest of the world to gather the harvest before Jesus returns. After all, we are America: God's nation.

But I disagree. I think we are too far gone, too godless, too liberal, too humanist, too hard of heart, too reprobate, too selfish, too spiritually dead, too dishonest, too addicted, too lazy, too afraid, too idolatrous, and essentially, doomed

. . . and I'm not so sure God didn't want it that way.

After all, he did plan out this whole "History of the World" thing aeons ago (or if nothing else, he knew how it would all play out, and is therefore still culpable in his omnipotence (phew, there's a theological battle to scratch your head over)).

If America, and the world for that matter, are going down the toilet, did God not plan it that way, in order for his saving moment, and his working anew of the world, to be that much more spectacular? Or maybe he has awesome things planned out because everything is going so bad. I cannot think of a single bad decision I've made, or bad thing that's happened to me, that good did not come of. Why should America be any different? Maybe God is using bad things to BRING US TO OUR KNEES.

And then the end will come. World: you're screwed . . . at least if you don't have Jesus.

Now, shoot, that means I'm one of those types who holds up signs about judgment on street corners, and at soldier's funerals, right? Or that I'm on my knees every night, Jonah-style, asking God to metaphorically and literally nuke our nation? No. I am not an instrument of God's echastological will (at least not knowingly)-- he's already got that stuff figured out, and I don't think he needs my advice, or lobbying. God hasn't said to me "What do you think I should do, Kevin?" He won't, either. What's my pea-brain to his universe-encompassing-brain?

Here's how I pray for America: a long sigh, followed by "God, let your will be done. If this (awful thing I've become aware of) is of you, then let it wreak havok, and if it's not, knock it down, but let your will be done." What else can I do? Haven't we all prayed for things that, years down the road, we see wasn't actually God's will? Take the 2008 election: as much as I didn't like Obama, I said not one prayer against him. How do I know how God will use him, should he win? Now, he's obviously not a Christian, and not for Christian principles, by and large, and therefore, many would draw the conclusion: he's not God's man. But maybe he is exactly God's man. Again, are we the Lord's counselors?

"Let your will be done." What more can we presume, when it comes to echastology, or the fate of our nation, and it's leaders? We vote with our conscience, through prayer, and then offer up to God our assurance that we wish for his will to be done.

Please note that I do things this way because, after all, I am a doomist. But if you disagree with me, then pray your convictions, and we will let the Lord decide

. . . and I'll see you on the other side of the tribulation.

(kidding, sorta)

4 comments:

  1. Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with asking God for what we would like to see happen. Yes, He'll do what He wills, and our short-sighted perspective is probably not encompassing the big picture He's looking at, but that's no reason to not pray for good as we understand it to come about.
    However, I agree with you for the most part. Let me add this: God works in the lives of individuals; nations don't go to heaven or hell, and none of them last forever. The fate of one immortal human soul is more important than the fate of even the largest nation, which will last at the most a few hundred years, and change beyond recognition from the beginning to the end. Therefore, people are more worth praying for than the incorporeal "nation" that each of us is a part of.
    I'll comment more later, when I have more time. I think this is an interesting subject.

    ReplyDelete
  2. To continue with my comments, I am with you in terms of being a pessimist. Reading Revelations, I have to admit that I can't come up with anything that refers to America. In today's world I think it would be impossible for the events described in Revelations to happen without the USA becoming involved somewhere. So something is going to happen here at some point that is going to completely take the USA out of the category of world superpower. Now, I don't know if that's economic collapse, terrorist attack, or what; it's hard to imagine. But something.
    I broadly agree with your point about God planning the rise and fall of nations. While specific individuals can repent and turn around, nations can't do so as easily.
    I think another interesting thing to add here would be to consider the prophets speaking to old testament Israel (and the other nations around). While nations were judged, it was individuals that were mostly preached to and against by the prophets. God never condemned Israel (or Babylon or Egypt or whoever) for having bad laws, or for being a dictatorship; he condemned them for having corrupt people in power, for worshipping other Gods, for being sexually immoral. Personal responsibilities. We can pray that American society better reflect God's priorities and give God glory. That would be a legitimate prayer. The government leaders we elect are just reflections of that society. What is the phrase: "Every nation gets the leaders it deserves"? In a democracy, anyways, I would say this is pretty much the case.

    ReplyDelete
  3. ..interesting my pastor in college did the exact same thing!

    a few points...

    I think the silence (or the what we see as silence) about America in the Bible could potentially be a good thing. Since we don't know the "will" of God from Scripture concerning this nation I'm encouraged to stand in the gap for the best and not the worst. I truly believe that revival is coming to America and the nations but so is and increasing amount of evil. Really, I agree with you and your father. People aren't all of sudden going to become better...but God is going to send revival we can be sure of that through Scripture, especially if people pray.

    Really, it all boils down to what we mean and what is truth when say "God is Sovereign". God is absolutely sovereign but in many ways He binds Himself to His creation in humility giving us an avenue to partner with Him.

    Yeah, Obama may not be King Josiah but it's obvious that the Lord uses kings who aren't after His own heart to display the heart of the nation of individuals that placed Him there...with the hopes they will turn in repentance.

    Additionally, in my opinion it really is arguable whether or not we can "change the Lord's mind" in prayer or not. Many examples come to mind: Hezekiah, Moses, Elijah, the children of Israel etc etc...I believe the Lord hears prayer not because He has to but He wants to, we know that because of all the conditional promises the Lord makes both in Old and New Testaments.

    I'm a little tired right now so forgive me is this is not making sense.

    Lastly, personally...anytime I find myself praying "Your will be done" I'm mostly praying out of a lack of faith or confusion...and just to be able to say that I prayed I say..."God, just let your will be done." Though an extremely valid prayer, kind of a Tolu cop out. Not all the time though.

    Peace.

    ReplyDelete
  4. Interesting ideas, fellas. Very interesting ideas, indeed. I don't think we'll ever really know while we're on this Earth.

    But someday, we'll know. I look forward to that day very much.

    Then we shall see face to face. Then we shall know fully, even as we're fully known.

    ReplyDelete